The debate at Infidels on whether science has held back religion is now over. I must admit to being rather disappointed by it all, firstly because JLK did not have very much to say and second because he did not write in English paragraphs but preferred short notes with lots of quotations. He was also obsessed with debate tactics which is often a sign that the subject was getting away from him. I must be the only person ever to be accused of both whiggishness and relativism at the same time. This all makes the debate unsuitable for publication on this site which a pity, as this was part of the reason that I wanted to do it in the first place. I'll leave it up to any readers who want to look through it rather than summarise the content here. There is a peanut gallery at infidels but there has been so little activity there that it seems even the usual atheist cheerleaders couldn't bring them selves to support their man. To be fair, JLK had a very tough assignment - he had to defend a position rejected by all the experts in a subject he knew very little about. Perhaps next time I'll play devil's advocate and so at least make sure the anti-religion case gets a fair hearing.